Dan Mohler HCSKL 2011 Day 4
Steve Chiara
MA in Christian Apologetics, Biola University
27 minutes 40 seconds in Dan shares a story where he says he's always been a little leery to share it because sometimes people aren't ready to hear something and they hear it wrong and misunderstand.
37 minutes 45 seconds in Dan says sometimes we feel compelled to change our loved ones and we're not going to find grace on that.
This is very similar to what was talked about in the Word of Life podcast: The New Humanity, 4-17-21, 25 min, 29 sec in. Here was my comment about that:
Brian Zahnd says that we are not here as the church to change anyone that is not what we're called to do. We are simply called to love everyone, if anyone does the changing it will be God who performs the work in the person.
40 minutes 30 seconds in Dan says that after his first miracle at only 3 months saved people came to him and said you got to be careful with that Dan. God doesn't always heal and you know the devil can heal too so just be careful. I sometimes hear stuff like that in different areas and I agree with Dan that it is incorrect to reason and think that way.
The devil cannot heal.
42 minutes 57 seconds in Dan talks about how you can say one thing to a person with love and pure motives and there are no boundaries or rules you don't have to be careful about anything if there is truly love involved. You can say the exact same thing same words but without love in it and you would be the one who would was in sin by saying it because you are saying it out of a need to be right or whatever it might be.
Love doesn't understand a list of do's and don'ts
44 minutes 35 seconds in he says if you're going to say something to somebody because you're so busy trying to be right (instead of having a sense of true righteousness where you are filled with love for the person and that is why you don't want them to walk into this hurtful place) then don't say anything at all! If it's just out of a need to be right, keep quiet. You need to be filled with love and that needs to be your motivation. This I feel pertains to Phynley's friend.
49 minutes 39 seconds in he talks about separating your identity. I am not a man of wrath I am a man of peace, love, joy kindness, goodness, and self-control. This goes along with what I was talking about in the last Bibles Burgers, and Bros about separating the wheat from the chaff in your own life.
Old man versus new. The works of the flesh have nothing to do with who I truly am.
1 hour 6 minutes 23 seconds in Dan gently disparages the idea of turning the gospel into I've got my ticket I'm going to heaven and that's great. I'm totally with him on this point
1 hour 19 minutes 40 seconds in Dan stresses very heavily John 3:17 where it says that "God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world but that the world through him might be saved."
1 hour 21 minutes 20 seconds in Dan says some of the most pure people I've ever met have a secret dark corner in their mind or psyche where they're constantly criticizing themselves and full of fear of judgment. It is a trap from Hell, a trap of Satan Dan said! We shouldn't be thinking sin in the first place! This goes along with what the hosts of The Lord of the Spirit were talking about... some of the church fathers lived very saintly lives as they contemplated and meditated on eternal conscious torment but that doesn't mean that it's healthy or edifying.
Shortly after he makes the comment that you just have to give that away (constantly criticizing themselves and full of fear of judgment). Now does giving all that away give you permission to sin? Of course not! You're not even thinking about sin! I love it!
He says a lot of preachers and ministers are afraid to preach this because they think it's giving a green light to sin! So apropos!
He was talking about how it does not produce the fruits of righteousness to think about hell and brimstone and fire and condemnation. This preaching works so much better under some systems rather than others.
2 hours 3 minutes in he explains 1 John 1:8 where it says if we say that we have no sin we lie to ourselves and do not know the truth. His interpretation of this in context is quite convincing. He says that it is definitely possible to walk in the spirit and not gratify the lusts of the flesh, that is not to sin. My only concern is to grab hold of that and yet at the same time remain righteousness conscious not sin conscious because if you are sin conscious you will constantly be nitpicking other people and yourself looking for sin which God says is not even an issue anymore.
2 hours 6 minutes in he speaks as if hell and eternal condemnation etc is just something to be shrugged off just completely ignored not paid any attention to. That is his attitude and his disposition...
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